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Aquatune Hydrogen Systems 15 Apr 2019 07:11 #1

  • Simon Burdett
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Hi,

Have you had any experience with this Aquatune Hydrogen fuel saver system?

If so would you recommend it?

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Aquatune Hydrogen Systems 15 Apr 2019 08:47 #2

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While I have NOT used the Aquatune, I can tell you one thing.

After so many years, and speaking with SO MANY people, the consensus is that it's not worth the effort. I have heard from only one that it paid off.

And that one reported a maximum benefit of 15%. Minimum was 5%, and with additional parts.

Remember, it's just a fuel vaporizer. The Groove does that, and without adding anything.

But if your heart says to do it, then DO IT! Just remember to share the whole process here so EVERYONE in the world can see it!

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Aquatune Hydrogen Systems 15 Apr 2019 10:18 #3

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Simon,
before you make your purchase, may I suggest you do some comparison shopping? HyZor


be sure to research the EFIE (which would be a better starting point, especially if you're already grooved) and MAP Enhancer.

I'm Grooved and have applied his suggestion to my MAP, in addition to having relocating it per Ron's suggestion. I've been wanting to find the time to install the EFIE to complete the full mod, but, weather/winter/life/work...soon though. REALLY!!
It's long, but you can see my progress on my megathread of what I've done to my vehicle (which celebrates it's 3rd birthday today!!): Wendy

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Aquatune Hydrogen Systems 15 Apr 2019 16:14 #4

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Thank you for your reply Ron.

Yes, my heart says it's just way too expensive, and they just won't return my emails, even though I actually had a phone conversation with one of them.

It also seems overly complicated, and the gains are questionable, as the majority of the reviews are not favorable.

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Aquatune Hydrogen Systems 16 Apr 2019 03:27 #5

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Are son saying that if EFIE a grooved vehicle that economy and power will IMPROVE?!?

PLEASE TELL ME MORE/LINK ECT.

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Aquatune Hydrogen Systems 16 Apr 2019 08:13 #6

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The Groove has been the biggest factor in my car. And now, 3 years later, I’m still finding ways to take those results a bit farther. And I’m reporting my results as I realize them.
I’m saying that you might achieve greater/more (consistent) gains beyond what the groove has done by taking greater control of your computer with an EFIE adjusting how the computer interprets the O2 levels in your exhaust. I’m also saying that by compensating for the groove with a similar modification to my car’s MAP sensor signal, I’ve also achieved a slightly higher level of fuel efficiency with no perceptible effect on performance.

The link is in my first reply, Eagle-research.com. George Wiseman is a recognized energy saving authority, from hydrogen enhancement of engines that burn hydrocarbons (and how to compensate for/tweak how your car’s computer interprets sensor signals outside of what it’s been programmed to look for) to electrical power to even health care/life enhancement. The HyZor I encourage you to compare to the expensive and complicated Aquawhatever system has links to resources where you can learn about EFIE and MAP.
Do your own research, but I can say that the MAP relocation (as Ron suggested here) and adjusting the signal with a mod from that site has further enhanced my results from the Groove, as I believe adding EFIE will as well.
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Aquatune Hydrogen Systems 10 May 2019 09:55 #7

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I build these types of systems and have installed them on nearly everything I drive, not the brand names mind you but I actually build my own from pieces.

I have seen improvements as much as 50% when i applied them with the groove in combination.
Typically I have only seen 20-30 percent improvement because the modern vehicles get all confused when you add oxygen to the system.

That being said, if you dont have a lot of time to devote to this i would advise doing the groove and other improvements first to get as much of a gain to begin with. If you don't filter these units correctly you can add contaminants to your engine and you'll be replacing seals and head gaskets, yeah it stunk to realize that was my fault everything failed when i started this process.

I think I did a write up on the forums here, let me see if I can find it.

Page 3 of this forum. HHO write up. Experiences with improving hho

HHO Write up
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Aquatune Hydrogen Systems 10 May 2019 10:29 #8

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Ken, have you put water injection systems on vehicles as well?
adding electronics is a bit ahead of me for the moment, but I'd be willing to experiment with a passive bubbler type of system on my vehicle.
Here's what I've come up with:



the line with the airstone would come from the airbox, post filter, (or should it be post MAF? either way, the computer will have to sort out fuel delivery from the O2 sensor with less air passing the sensor, or less air because of the water displacing it) and the vacuum source would be the stock PCV location, where I've got my MAP sensor relocated to (I'd obviously have to T-connect there...)

What do you think? Am I correct in assuming that by controlling the intake air with a needle valve, I'll control the amount of bubbles/vapour produced?
In winter, I could switch from water to gasoline too...

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