TOPIC: MPG Remedy

Hi Gerald, maybe next time in Atlanta or wherever, look for a dollar or 99 cent type store, maybe also Walgreen's. MY aspirin is Family Value brand, got 150 ct. for 99 cents 325 mg. I still can't think of any other reason for MPG difference on the Atlanta run besides the gas itself. I wish Everclear wasnt so expensive!

Since your Chevy is OBD2 it is possible to use a Scanguage or a decent scantool to actually see the O2 sensor voltages and the LT ST fuel trims in real time. Being able to see this info to me is one of the best things of OBD2 systems. You can get a far better idea of what's going on this way. Particularly you can see the FT #'s this will show if the ECU is adding or sbtracting fuel compared to the middle of range setpoint, the number zero. Without this info you almost might as well be working w/ a distributor/carb. setup. You have set the stage for improvements already, a scantool/scanguage will let you "see the stage".

About your old ship, USS Johnston DD821 was a Gearing-class destroyer WW2 built. She was FRAM-1 modernized in early 60's. the ASROC box launcher was mounted midships between the stacks, the gun mount immediately forward of the bridge was removed and provisions for the helo deck were made aft. The unmanned remote control DASH helo's were an experiment of that era to add longer range ASW capabilities to fleet escort ships out beyond ASROC range, but ultimitely were discarded due to control issues like you witnessed! ASROC could launch Anti Submarine Rocket Torpedoes, with atomic warheads to increase kill probability. I found a website for your old ship, very smart lethal lookin Tin Can! There is a pic of her alongside USS Enterprise, and from your visit to Saudi Arabia I would guess you were in the Med, 6th Fleet?

BTW Gerald I hope I caused no offence in my little vignette good 'ol boy story I made up above about gasoline superstitions! After I came up w/ that, I realized where you live
I've been to Georgia once many years ago, I thought it was beautiful, the people super nice, wish I could have stayed much longer. I would just love to hear and talk to some of those old-time good Old boys from your region, I'd probably start to pick up an accent after a few days!

I just added a fresh dose of MPG Remedy to the Subie's tank- 6 uncoated aspirin crushed added to 5 oz of Everclear and 2.5 oz HEET yellow bottle gas dryer. After letting sit a day w/agitation several times, added 1 oz of hydrogen peroxide then added to tank w/ 4 oz of Lucas fuel treatment, filled tank w mid grade no-brand gas. I noticed the aspirin would go up in suspension when I swirled the jar, then would settle out to a thin layer of white residue on bottom. Don't know if or how much of the aspirin went into solution, but some never did. Maybe the white residue is binders or other? Going to just drive as normal, see how it does then compute #'s at the next fillup.

But I won't buy gas at Gus Filbert's fillin' station!

Tracy G

TracyG wrote: So Nate you dropped the aspirin tablets into the alcohol w/o crushing them? Did they completely dissolve by themselves or was there still white residue tiny particles visible? I have a jar w/ 6 crushed aspirin in 5 oz. of Everclear and 2.5 oz of yellow bottle HEET. Put this together yesterday about 20 hrs. ago. The white aspirin residue will settle out to a thin layer at bottom of jar after swirling it up. Aspirin is a compound of course, binding agents and several ingredients. I haven't yet added any hydrogen peroxide, I think I will now to see if more of the white residue "disappears" into solution.

Yes seven whole aspirin into two tablespoons of alcohol and a tiny bit of hydrogen peroxide. I'm pretty sure the tablets will dissolve on their own but I like shaking the jar and watching the tablets break down.

Once the solution has been sitting for a few hours I see a white layer on the bottom with a more clearish liquid on top. A single shake mixes the solution completely and I end up with a milky fluid that appears to be completely mixed with no white residue anywhere. It will eventually settle again and the single shake will mix it up again.

The patent says that you only need enough carrier fluid to dissolve the aspirin. Are you guys able to use less? Two tablespoons is about an ounce iirc.

Yup Nate that's how it works on my end too. I guess that some part of the asp. compound dissolves, some doesn't. When I was putting in my tank today I was using a coffee filt. in the funnel but was real slow the paper was absorbing lots of the alcohol. Finally stopped wrung out the filt., and just poured the rest in. I have 3 fuel filters in my system so not too worried. I used a large volume of alsohol/hyd. perox. wont use so much again unless I see a big improvement in some area.

Tracy G

no problem tracyG hard to find those old boys now, not much shine being made lol lol
my old ship is on the bottom now, was giving to Taiwan, they were finished with in so down she went, good home for fish
do want a scan thing but money is tight, maybe kids do that for birthday present.
The write-up posted in my truck post (1997 chev truck 350 vortec) is another good reason for gas difference from emissions to non emission gas
Going to find un-coated aspirin hopefully somewhere. When dissolving aspirin, the white residue tiny particles visible are binding parts for aspirin is what 2 doctors have told me and they said DO NOT take un-coated aspirin unless doctor tells you too. Shaking 2 or 3 times in 2 to 3 days then filter thr 4 layers of white kitchen paper towels is doing good job so for. I do not want a build-up of little white things in tank. It may not harm tank but could stop-up a gas line at some point in time

hi Gerald, I agree w/ ya on keeping the fuel syst. clean.

Several years ago I bought a large book called Alcohol can Be a Gas by David Blume. It's all about the whole deal w/ making Ethanol as a fuel. Basically Moonshining. Thing is- there is a form available from ATF to fill out, to be able to make Ethanol Legally, up to a large amount. As I recall it just has to be "denatured" meaning something like a bit of Methanol or other to render it non-drinkable. Ethanol for fuel is basically Ok, it's Moonshine that's an issue! Awhile back I saw an article about a famous Moonshiner called Popcorn Sutton, there are vid's of him at work on youtube. what a Charachter! He was the Real Deal, almost a charachter from Central Casting! I also read a very entertaining book called Moonshine Light, Moonshine Bright by William Price Fox about a young lad and his adventures w/ Moonshine and other things set in South Carolina in the late 1940's. All this is very interesting, informative, ans set w/ a backround of true Americana.

Would be interesting to know what is different w/ the Atlanta gas...now, everything I've seen re: Ethanol as or in fuel, says it hurts MPG. But- Ethanol is an "oxygen carrier" in that it contains O2. And Ethanol has a high Octane, forget exactly might be 107 (don't rem. if Research or Motor). It burns extra-clean.

So far, the latest dose of MPG Remedy in Subie, w/ mid-grade gas- is it has more power. Throttle response seems a little sharper. Can't tell of MPG way too soon for that. A seat-of-pants observation. Idle quality has changed to a bit smoother. Pulling away from a stoplight it feels like more torque. not a whole lot- but w/ this car you notice small changes as it's basically under-powered.

Well at least your old ship went to Davy Jones' not the breakers! I've seen pics of Venerable warships being broken for scrap- HMS Rodney and HMS Nelson, famous WW2 Royal Navy Battleships- Rodney helped send Bismark to the floor of the Atlantic, kinda sad to see a ship like that being scrapped! History being lost.

You might do some searching 'round to find out about scan tools/scanguage.for sure they and the like are on ebay all the time. People have lashups w/ laptop computers and even Smart Phones app's I think. Several ways to get plugged in to the computer. Might go to various Auto Parts stores many now have scantools to loan,(just to have the experience of going in to the computer) but you need to see data stream not just codes.

Tracy G

a few years back I was filling out the paper work for making shine legally, I would have to secure area with 8 ft fence and locked gate or inside a building, would need a record of all corn and sugar bought from where, would need to be inspected by ATF before start of making and at any time they pleased to inspect ( could be 2 or 3 am if they desired no choice on my part as to when ), no one but me could be around any "cooking" any time and if any liquid left me it had to be poison to drink. I could make up to 1,000 gallons for my consumption (burning you know hehehe), could have it in my truck at any time (tank or bed)
wanted to make it but was not happy with being "inspected" any time "they" please and wife was not happy with that either. so did not go forward.

Yes, Gerald there is definitely a lot of details in making Ethanol legally. In the book Alcohol Can be a Gas, David Blume lays out mega-details of many methods to do it. And He did say that often it's the local reg's from fire Dept., etc that are a burden. One major clue from the book is--to minimize needed process heat is to run a Vacuum still. Boil point of mash, water and Etoh is lowered by lower pressure- akin the the principle behind the Groove. Also I learned a surprizing set of data indicating many other feedstocks besides corn are better. The best raw plant feedstock is--cattail roots! It needs extra step or two to turn the starch in the cattail roots to sugars. But this is making Etoh for fuel not Moonshine!

I now feel I can give a further albeit early endorsement of the Remedy. The Subie engine sounds throatier, crisper, and definitely accelerates better. Gave it a full throttle run on an on-ramp just a bit ago, had to get ahead of a Semi that was about to cut me off. Wound up in inside fast lane passing everyone else! ( Must remember-this car 10 yrs. ago couldn't outrun anything.) I advanced the dist. base timing weeks ago to 14 deg. initial, so I was trying mid-grade gas. The whole combo-13 gal. 89 Octane, 6 aspirin, crushed mixed w/ 5 oz Everclear, 2.5 oz HEET yellow bottle,1 oz or so of hydrogen Peroxide, and 4 oz of Lucas fuel treatment- that's this tank's recipe. The Subie is running in marked contrast to some of it's recent issues. For this 'lil engine at least for now- the MPG Remedy is acting like a tonic!

Tracy G

yes i know the difference between vaporizing and cracking.

I'd like to know how you crack fuel and why.

Quick update again on my latest w/ the MPG Remedy. This is Day 4 on this dose and tank. No question but that the Subie has more throttle response, increased power, better idle quality, and it even has more "burble" in the exhaust note. I've never seen changes like these to the engine's operating charachteristics from anything else ever added to the gas. No # measurements of anything- this is all subjective--but I KNOW this car & engine. I't's like it is ridding itself of a chest cold!

Tracy G

Congratulations Mr. Tracy.
Funny how just a combination of additives seems to do the trick for you with all the other mods you did. Maybe all the other mods enhanced the fuel mod but surprised that a certain combo did it and not just aspirin.
Now I have to rid my beast of that chest cold after all the mods I did with no real results.
Thinking EFIE will be a help/cure since how can all those mods do squat for me unless the mother board chip by the powers that be is just shutting all enhancements down.
Karl

Hi Gerald, I just re-read this earlier message of yours. I looked at the pics closely, and noticed your Everclear is 190 Proof, 95% Ethanol (the remaining 5 % should be water). My little flask of Everclear is only 151 Proof, 75% Ethanol. HHMM...wonder if that's a regional thing or what. Since it is doing so well in the Subie, I want to find more Ethanol, but don't like paying so much for so little and of lower proof.

Anyone have any input on various alcohol's?? Would simple denatured alcohol sold in hardware stores be OK for this, should we stick to the Everclear, or??

Tracy G

Karl--
well I don't know why the Subie seems so happy again. It had become sorta temperamental a few months ago. It begun burning oil, and started to "use" coolant. So I went to one grade heavier oil, added Lucas oil treat to crankcase, and used a copper/water glass stop-leak in radiator. Oil smoke and coolant loss have about stopped thankfully. But it was running just "ok" not great, and MPG had become mediocre. Had one torquemaster plug getting fouled.
Then had the clutch and one driveaxle replaced about 6 weeks ago. Shifted much better of course- but that was it, until this dose of MPG Remedy.

The Remedy is like a folk remedy. Dan understands the fuel chemistry of it, and we follow along and give a try. For your Mazda/Ranger, I'll again hazard a guess that all your work on the fuel side is hindered by "something". It finally showed something w/ the second coil firing order "trick". I think that means it wants "more spark energy". You already have the Torquemasters installed right? Did you get the non-resistor ones? I hope you did, for a reason...

hint: Granetelli MPG Plus wires.(the Green ones, JC Whitney online). MSD or similar Ignition upgrade. and, after that...(ominous rumbling foreboding sound ) Hey it's Only Money, right? This can be done in stages of course, that's what I did.

Tracy G